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Wedge List / RE: AVOs, waiting list
« Last post by Brian Lanoway on September 29, 2017, 09:19:38 AM »
With Jim's help, I bought a pair of AVOs last spring.  I now have 2,800 miles
on the shocks and I would describe them as "perfect".   They were easy to
install.  I have set them to the fourth notch up from soft. The adjustment
knob is readily accessible.  On my TR8, they are matched with new KYB struts
up front, rubber bushings and 15 inch tires.

Our Canadian roads up here aren't great and I often notice and admire how well
these AVO shocks work in concert with the front struts.

If you are thinking about new rear shocks, the AVOs are a great choice.  All
you have to do is order them through Jim.

Brian Lanoway
Winnipeg, Canada
1980 TR8


Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 06:47:19 -0600
From: James Tencate
Subject:  AVOs, waiting list

How many here are interested in getting a set of AVO rear shocks? They build
them to order, in batches of 5 preferably.

Cost varies depending on the value of the UK GBP but roughly what a pair of
SPAX rear shocks cost.

If you're interested, shoot me an Email and I'll start a list. Simon Eaton is
happy to be our go-between. AVO won't ship to the US, way too much fuss for
them to set that up apparently (they're a small shop) and Simon is quite
willing to help us out. Me too on this end of the pond.

Jim (tencate@mac.com )


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Wedge List / Re: AVO rear shocks
« Last post by Anthony Rhodes on September 29, 2017, 05:43:46 AM »
In that case I would love a list of the specs I would need to look for. Maybe

a list with 2 or 3 variations:   Stock ride height and maybe 1 or 2 amounts of

lowering.



And if you get a shock appropriate for, let's say, 1" of lowering, does that

make it inappropriate for a stock ride height application?



-Tony



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Wedge List / Re: AVO rear shocks
« Last post by tencate on September 28, 2017, 10:58:42 PM »
http://www.shockwarehouse.com/site/product.cfm/id/14314/name/Bilstein-B6-Perf

ormance-Shock-Absorber-Alfa-Romeo-Alfetta-GTV-6-Sprint-Rear-24-004756

<http://www.shockwarehouse.com/site/product.cfm/id/14314/name/Bilstein-B6-Per

formance-Shock-Absorber-Alfa-Romeo-Alfetta-GTV-6-Sprint-Rear-24-004756>



$100 each plus shipping. Not adjustable, but Bilsteins nontheless, I'll check

out dimensions. A direct replacement maybe? About the price of the adjustable

AVOs. I'm a big fan of Bilsteins on my Volvos :-)



Cool.



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Wedge List / Re: AVO rear shocks
« Last post by tencate on September 28, 2017, 10:49:42 PM »
and no changes to the stock mounting ends on the rears? that'd be cool



The rebuilt Koni inserts I tried to cram into my stock strut tubes wouldn't

fit without LOTS of work on the insides, I took a brake wheel cylinder hone

and put it on a long stick to hone out the insides. Long and tedious but I

finally got enough room to get them in there.



Would love an article on the topic, you willing? :-)



Thanks,

Jim



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Wedge List / Re: AVO rear shocks
« Last post by Todd Kishbach on September 28, 2017, 10:39:57 PM »
Many of you guys are getting hung up on thinking you need shocks and strut

inserts that bfitb our cars.  In reality, their are tons of shocks and

struts that actually fit our cars.  They just donbt say that they fit TR7/8.

If you want to step up to good adjustable shocks, you need to ditch the

preconceived notion that you need a shock designed for a wedge.  Once you get

into good shocks, unless you have an extremely common vehicle, you need to

look for shocks by dimensions.  I run Koni race inserts on the front of all my

cars.  In the past, I have had KYBs(not good enough for what I want but good

enough for most), Spax, (these just plain suck), Carreras which and now called

QA1s(pretty good), Tokicos(pretty good for a good price), and finally settled

on the Konis.  The ones I run are either single or double adjustable.  Single

rebound adjustable only are adjusted from the top with a knob.  Doubles have

the top knob and a lower adjuster that requires drilling a hole near the

bottom of the strut tube.  These are expensive, but not much more than the

Spax ones that fail almost immediately after install.  As far as rears go, you

need units with a shorter body and a shorter stroke if you want to run shorter

stiffer springs.  The rear shocks marketed for Alfa Romeo GTV6 works well in

the back.  Its basically just a shorter shock designed for spring rates

similar to what a modded TR8 would run.  Scroll thru the online catalog from

QA1 or look at Koni 8610 or 8611 race inserts.  If you can wrap your head

around whats the info is telling you, you will see that their are lots of

shocks that fit the TR8.

Todd



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Wedge List / AVO rear shocks
« Last post by tencate on September 28, 2017, 08:54:32 PM »
Just for those of you who have NOT been following the rear shock discussion in

the last several issues of The Bulletin, here is a summary. This is no longer

just my opinion, others have tried them out and reported what they thought.

YMMV.



I measured up some factory rear shocks, Konis match the dimensions of the

factory very well. Konis are also valved such that rebound is much stiffer

than stock at the softest setting. Exactly what the Hurdwell memo recommends.

Konis are as rare as hen's teeth (to quote my dad, no idea where that phrase

came from). I like Konis. A lot. But I hate the way you have to adjust them.

No external knob!!!



Stock AVOs are too long, they'll bottom out before they hit the bump stops. Is

that an issue? I thought so, it feels mighty funny when a shock bottoms out.

I'd rather hit a bump stop instead. So I don't like the original AVOs either.



Stock SPAX are good shocks but again, they're too long, they bottom out. I

don't like that. Why can't they match the factory dimensions like Koni? Heaven

forbid you should have a lowered car!



KYBs are high pressure gas shocks but I don't like the feel. Others find it

perfectly fine, and the price is right.



Gabriels are a good dirt cheap shock. Non adjustable. They just feel cheap.

But they fit. They don't bottom. They feel cheap.



GAZ? A better fit than SPAX but I can't EVER seem to get them adjusted so they

feel right. I don't like them. Anyone want my old set? $100 plus shipping.



We asked AVO to build us a shock with factory dimensions. Valving is similar

to their longer shock. We think they hit the sweet spot. Externally

adjustable, and they fit. But they build them as custom orders for club

members. They still sell their longer shocks BTW. I have spec sheets for their

shocks somewhere, I'll dig them up if you're curious. They're adjustable.



Jim, YMMV. Opinions expressed here are mine. As you might have guessed.

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Wedge List / Re: AVOs, waiting list
« Last post by tencate on September 28, 2017, 08:29:30 PM »
The AVO website does NOT sell the TWOA short versions, careful. Ours are

designed to match the Koni dimensions, IMHO, the original AVO design is WAY

too long! They might fit a Stag but they bottom out on our cars, they're

longer than SPAX! I've tried the originals.



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Wedge List / AVOs, waiting list
« Last post by tencate on September 28, 2017, 08:48:10 AM »
How many here are interested in getting a set of AVO rear shocks? They build

them to order, in batches of 5 preferably.



Cost varies depending on the value of the UK GBP but roughly what a pair of

SPAX rear shocks cost.



If you're interested, shoot me an Email and I'll start a list. Simon Eaton is

happy to be our go-between. AVO won't ship to the US, way too much fuss for

them to set that up apparently (they're a small shop) and Simon is quite

willing to help us out. Me too on this end of the pond.



Jim (tencate@mac.com <mailto:tencate@mac.com>)

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Wedge List / Re: 2018 TCoC Gathering Car Show
« Last post by Wayne Simpson on September 26, 2017, 11:29:57 PM »
What attracts people to the Morgan? It's the totally archaic nature of the

car. It really has no other attributes, if you can call that an attribute.



Only the Morgan Plus 8 has the Rover engine. Other models, which look

basically if not exactly the same, have had a series of engines, from the

Coventry Climax to the Triumph 2 litre wet liner engine.



I took a mid 90's Plus 8 on an extended test drive of about 50 miles once. It

was fun band entertaining, but the handling was somewhat flighty once you

got it over 65 mph. It has zero storage space (no boot) so I can't imagine

taking on anything more than a weekend drive.



SentB fromB myB BlackBerryB 10B smartphone.

B  Original Message B

From: Stephen Sanders

Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 2:49 PM

To: TR8 Forum List

Cc: Jack McGahey

Subject:  2018 TCoC Gathering Car Show



Just a quick question about the 2018 TCoC - Gathering Car show. The members

of my British car club in Williamsburg were wondering what the featured

marque

is going to be? Jack.....has there been any discussion or hint to as what it

may be? Members in the Williamsburg club are huge Morgan owners and member of

the DC club as well and they're said they've heard that it's going to be the

Morgan...any truth to that? What attracts people to the Morgan

anyway.......could it be the Rover V8 under the hood :)





Steve Sanders

sasande@hotmail.com<mailto:sasande@hotmail.com>

1976 DATSUN 280Z

1980 TRIUMPH TR7 DHC FI SPIDER TPZDJ8AA401562

1981 TRIUMPH TR8 DHC FI SATPZ4583BA406399

1981 TRIUMPH TR8 DHC FI SATPV4589BA405205

1997 FORD THUNDERBIRD

2013 JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE - Overland

WILLIAMSBURG, VIRGINIA

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Wedge List / Annual British car show
« Last post by charles frink on September 26, 2017, 05:26:22 PM »
Just a reminder for those who may have been interested or those who may want

more info regarding this British Legends Weekend Car Show.





It will be held on Oct 6-7-8 at the BEAUTIFUL Sea Crest Beach Resort in

Falmouth, MA.  If you need more info go to the CCBCC site or email me for

needed info.





This is a BRITISH car show.  We do not have many wedge cars in the club but

there will be 4 or 5 (hopefully) in attendance as well as a couple of SD1's

and a Stag or two.





There will be activities all weekend.  These can be found on the CCBCC

website.





Looking forward to seeing some TWOA members.





To quote a phrase, "COME ON DOWN" .





Charles Frink



TR7 and TR8 owner.

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